Jan 31st 2009, 07:14 SLIB SLIB, SL International Business
by Tyrian Camilo

The BNT/ACE Fiasko

Dear Investors,

Due to some incorrect details being spread by IntLibber Brautigan, here is Skype chat log with IntLibber, irrelevant discussion has been removed and my Skype account name changed which relates to a business we do not own. Date are on european format: DD.MM.YYYY

Actual conversation has zero modification, including all typos etc.

This posting is made solely on the purpose that you may draw your own conclusions of the situation, without any personal agenda of anyone who's involved being affection to the situation.

Also, i remind you that i never claimed IntLibber has sold our sims to WU, only being afraid of that due to no communication what so ever. Furthermore, IntLibber has never said anything about requirements to getting sims moved.

Our sims are being held by Vitall Beck who has shown to be far greater, independant security for shareholders than any current exchange regulation, just look at the KUSH Islands management over at SLCapEx. We wanted to transfer the two sims to her aswell. As a shareholder, i need to ask you to consider which is better for you: Exchange held with arbitrary rules, or an Individual shareholder secured which has an financial interest on the well being of the company and proven track record to make good for shareholders?

Please voice your opinion here on ACE forums, to us and to ACE management.

Why did we go public? Simple: No communication what-so-ever, no answers at all. When going public, i knew the only thing IntLibber really cares about is publicity. Our publicity was met with the usual slander allegations, pretty much as expected.

Also, SLIB is the only still standing large-scale virtual bank, all the competition from back-the-day is completely gone, and most of them left huge amounts of depositor funds unpaid. As far as we know, only one of them made good to 100% of the depositor funds, and in question was a small scale operation known as SL Bank. During the banking ban, SLIB was the second largest in terms of deposits, despite being one of the smallest in terms of sheer volume of different depositors(accounts).

This whole thing is taking away time from more important tasks, and hope the situation clears out soon.


Here is conversation with IntLibber first, then with Cliff Eclipse.


[8.1.2009 1:13:27] Tyrian Camilo says: dunno will this ever reach you, but i've been trying to get a hold of you for a month now
[8.1.2009 1:13:31] Tyrian Camilo says: I need shit getting done ASAPO
[8.1.2009 1:41:32] Tyrian Camilo says: wow you found your way around to skype
[8.1.2009 1:41:42] IntLibber Brautigan says: ya
[8.1.2009 1:44:52] Tyrian Camilo says: so the transfer tickets, EM changes etc
[8.1.2009 1:45:07] IntLibber Brautigan says: ya I'm working on LL right now
[8.1.2009 1:45:16] Tyrian Camilo says: what's the problem?
[8.1.2009 1:45:32] IntLibber Brautigan says: having issues with LL letting me pay my bills
[8.1.2009 1:45:47] IntLibber Brautigan says: Jack Linden's being a douchebag
[8.1.2009 1:45:59] Tyrian Camilo says: and what's the real story behind everything?
[8.1.2009 1:47:07] IntLibber Brautigan says: real story is we have plenty of money, we are finalizing our deal with Woodbury, Jack Linden and a few other lindens are trying to make things as difficult as possible for us, they are not letting me pay my bills, I have retained Frank Taney to deal with their attorney, they need to resolve this tonite or we re filing criminal and civil complaints in California
[8.1.2009 1:57:56] Tyrian Camilo says: So do you even got list of all the sim related tasks i've assigned so far?
[8.1.2009 1:57:59] Tyrian Camilo says: *requested
[8.1.2009 1:59:17] IntLibber Brautigan says: yes I 've got the sim related list info
[8.1.2009 1:59:50] Tyrian Camilo says: transfers, acceptance, EMs?
[8.1.2009 1:59:58] IntLibber Brautigan says: ya
[8.1.2009 2:00:08] Tyrian Camilo says: ok cool
[8.1.2009 2:01:10] IntLibber Brautigan says: once we get the deal with WU completed, everything will be smooth sailing, LL will bill WU monthly for all our sims, so the bill will always be paid
[8.1.2009 2:01:30] IntLibber Brautigan says: some fucking furries in LL trying to sabotage things is all, along with Jack
[8.1.2009 2:07:57] Tyrian Camilo says: WU?
[8.1.2009 2:10:04] IntLibber Brautigan says: woodbury university
[13.1.2009 1:06:19] Tyrian Camilo says: situation?
[13.1.2009 1:07:54] IntLibber Brautigan says: patch linden made madelena the visible owner of the bnt groups, Professor Clift is in a board meeting to get a final decision on the woodbury deal, and Frank Taney and I are conferencing with marty linden in the morning

*** BY THIS TIME NOTHING HAS BEEN YET

[14.1.2009 23:41:19] Tyrian Camilo says: Heya
[14.1.2009 23:41:25] Tyrian Camilo says: if that L$ trouble is truly your problem
[14.1.2009 23:41:37] Tyrian Camilo says: you just let me know, i can have you atleast 5k $ paypaled by tomorrow
[14.1.2009 23:42:02] Tyrian Camilo says: also, you can ask for currency exchange limits increase
[14.1.2009 23:42:08] Tyrian Camilo says: personally, i've got 80k/80k
[15.1.2009 19:31:33] IntLibber Brautigan says: I've asked for currency exchange limit increases, LL are being douchbags
[15.1.2009 19:31:46] IntLibber Brautigan says: I'm getting the bill paid now, need to focus on the LL weenies right now
[15.1.2009 19:43:34] Tyrian Camilo says: ok
[15.1.2009 19:43:38] Tyrian Camilo says: do the estate changes as soon as you can
[15.1.2009 19:43:45] Tyrian Camilo says: i've lost quite a deal of time and money due to that
[15.1.2009 19:44:43] Tyrian Camilo says: our twitter profile: http://twitter.com/secondlife_slib
[16.1.2009 1:41:38] Tyrian Camilo says: so all solved now?
[16.1.2009 1:41:50] IntLibber Brautigan says: ya
[16.1.2009 1:41:57] Tyrian Camilo says: remember the estate stuff
[16.1.2009 1:42:05] IntLibber Brautigan says: lemme catch up on things and I'll get your ticket done within the hour

NOTICE: He promises to make the tickets.

[16.1.2009 1:42:59] Tyrian Camilo says: and no disrespect, but i need you to put a transfer ticket of Akaesha too to Vitall Beck in light of the recent issues, we cannot risk our client's livelyhood if LL is risking yours
[16.1.2009 1:43:45] IntLibber Brautigan says: that will not be necessary, were in a good cash position and frank taney made clear to LL what would happen if this happened again
[16.1.2009 1:44:07] Tyrian Camilo says: Sorry, but i really cannot risk anything like that
[16.1.2009 1:46:37] Tyrian Camilo says: The risk of LL getting the sim disappearing, FAR outweighs anything else
[16.1.2009 1:47:04] IntLibber Brautigan says: there is no risk of that
[16.1.2009 1:47:30] Tyrian Camilo says: As shown in the past couple months, infact, past 2 years, YES, there is
[16.1.2009 1:48:14] Tyrian Camilo says: We are nearing 2nd anniversary celebration of SLIB, and when our 3rd year begins, i want to make sure all our risks are as minimal as possible for bright future.
[16.1.2009 1:50:22] IntLibber Brautigan says: well atm we've got our bills paid, a million in L$, 7100 US in paypal
[16.1.2009 1:51:09] Tyrian Camilo says: Sorry, but the past 2months was too big of a scare. Besides, the problem you had with LL, caused us DIRECT materially adverse effects
[16.1.2009 1:51:34] IntLibber Brautigan says: what happened?
[16.1.2009 1:51:46] Tyrian Camilo says: Revenue loss, extra human effort
[16.1.2009 1:51:55] IntLibber Brautigan says: how so?
[16.1.2009 1:53:10] Tyrian Camilo says: I wasn't able to efficiently delegate tasks, and therefore it redirected my attention from the grand scale to the grassroot daily actions.
[16.1.2009 1:53:11] IntLibber Brautigan says: I understand, right now we are working on completing the takeover of majority of BNT by Woodbury University
[16.1.2009 1:53:41] IntLibber Brautigan says: there wont be any more issues with tier from here on out, what happened this past month was LL's last gasp attempt to interfere in things with plausible excuses
[16.1.2009 1:54:12] Tyrian Camilo says: I really don't care, i've weighted in the risk vs. benefits
[16.1.2009 1:54:23] Tyrian Camilo says: Letting you hold the sims is nothing but risk, and negative impact
[16.1.2009 1:57:05] Tyrian Camilo says: and please IM Jin Amiot after you've made him EM on Sivuluisu
[16.1.2009 1:57:57] IntLibber Brautigan says: ok
[18.1.2009 21:45:41] Tyrian Camilo says: SIVULUISU EM CHANGES, ASAP.
[19.1.2009 22:22:09] Tyrian Camilo says: Why the FUCK haven't you done what i've requested?
[28.1.2009 23:01:41] Tyrian Camilo says: ty for finally setting the EM stuff, tickets?
[28.1.2009 23:19:17] Tyrian Camilo says: saw the announcement
[28.1.2009 23:19:32] Tyrian Camilo says: you realize that siv & akaesha sims are not yours, therefore they should be transferred to us
[30.1.2009 21:09:09] IntLibber Brautigan says: a) asset reserves are an obligatory part of listing at ACE and you agreed to that
[30.1.2009 21:09:20] IntLibber Brautigan says: b) those sims are not "being sold to woodbury" despite your unfounded slander
[30.1.2009 21:09:44] IntLibber Brautigan says: c) you have 6 hours to rescind your previous statements or your ability to post stories on ACE will be limited. Slander is not permitted.
[30.1.2009 21:13:38] Tyrian Camilo says: B) I asked from you that, and i did not claim so
[30.1.2009 21:13:49] Tyrian Camilo says: There's no slander involved and you know that
[30.1.2009 21:13:58] IntLibber Brautigan says: you need to post a retraction
[30.1.2009 21:14:00] Tyrian Camilo says: consider SLIB effectively delisted, now submit those fucking transfer tickets
[30.1.2009 21:16:30] Tyrian Camilo says: So, filed them already?
[30.1.2009 22:10:43] Tyrian Camilo says: Ticket #s?




[8.1.2009 1:06:12] Tyrian Camilo.net says: heya
[8.1.2009 1:06:16] Tyrian Camilo.net says: heard of intlibber anything?
[8.1.2009 1:06:28] Cliff Eclipse says: Not at all.
[8.1.2009 1:06:32] Tyrian Camilo.net says: I've been trying to get a hold of him for a month now
[8.1.2009 1:06:46] Tyrian Camilo.net says: Essentially at this point he's holding 2 sims hostage, with wrong EMs
[8.1.2009 1:07:09] Tyrian Camilo.net says: So, in other words, those 2 sims will be gone any day now -.-
[8.1.2009 1:07:12] Cliff Eclipse says: Yeah? whose?
[8.1.2009 1:07:27] Tyrian Camilo.net says: My sims
[8.1.2009 1:07:38] Tyrian Camilo.net says: but he insisted on having them for security purposes
[8.1.2009 1:07:48] Tyrian Camilo.net says: hell the bastard were asking for more sims ~1½months ago
[8.1.2009 1:08:20] Cliff Eclipse says: This is Shaun?
[8.1.2009 1:08:26] Tyrian Camilo.net says: IntLibber
[8.1.2009 1:08:41] Cliff Eclipse says: That I am talking to?
[8.1.2009 1:08:41] Tyrian Camilo.net says: oooh
[8.1.2009 1:08:42] Tyrian Camilo.net says: Tyrian
[8.1.2009 1:08:42] Tyrian Camilo.net says: me
[8.1.2009 1:08:47] Cliff Eclipse says: ah
[8.1.2009 1:08:56] Tyrian Camilo.net says: i asked for EM changes some 1½months ago
[8.1.2009 1:08:57] Tyrian Camilo.net says: still no action
[8.1.2009 1:09:06] Cliff Eclipse says: He said he was trying to contact you.
[8.1.2009 1:09:06] Tyrian Camilo.net says: then noticed IntLibber BNT and Brautigan both are suspended
[8.1.2009 1:09:10] Tyrian Camilo.net says: and he's nowhere to be reached
[8.1.2009 1:09:11] Cliff Eclipse says: He didnt?
[8.1.2009 1:09:20] Tyrian Camilo.net says: madelena has been A LOT online but it's awlays duchess not intlibber
[8.1.2009 1:09:42] Tyrian Camilo.net says: i need neighbour acceptance tickets too
[8.1.2009 1:09:48] Tyrian Camilo.net says: 2 transfers are pending due to that
[8.1.2009 1:09:55] Cliff Eclipse says: He has issue with LL that keeps him offworld.
[8.1.2009 1:10:12] Tyrian Camilo.net says: Yeah, and i bet my money the issue is "no money to pay the bills"
[8.1.2009 1:10:19] Cliff Eclipse says: Dunno why he wont get on SKype more, but think he was on Monday.
[8.1.2009 1:10:43] Tyrian Camilo.net says: Thing is, he's made himself a huge liability now
[8.1.2009 1:11:10] Cliff Eclipse says: He claims LL demands that he not pay in Lindens. Yeah, Lindens not accepting Lindens.
[8.1.2009 1:11:22] Tyrian Camilo.net says: they've never accepted L$
[8.1.2009 1:11:28] Tyrian Camilo.net says: it's always sold to 3rd parties
[8.1.2009 1:11:42] Tyrian Camilo.net says: i'll happily exchange L$ to paypaled USD ;)
[8.1.2009 1:12:02] Tyrian Camilo.net says: it's just i won't offer the best rates, but i can make even 10k $ happen any given day
[8.1.2009 1:12:15] Cliff Eclipse says: You could sensd him Skype to that effect.
[8.1.2009 1:12:23] Tyrian Camilo.net says: he's never online
[19.1.2009 22:36:42] Tyrian Camilo.net says: WJUV -> still operational, no revenue, low costs
[19.1.2009 22:36:57] Tyrian Camilo.net says: And intlibber is refusing service to me right now
[19.1.2009 22:37:00] Tyrian Camilo.net says: Get his head straight
[19.1.2009 22:37:15] Tyrian Camilo.net says: I've been requesting several EM changes for 2 months now
[19.1.2009 22:40:13] Cliff Eclipse says: ok. He is inworld at present. Can you send notecard and I will address issue.
[19.1.2009 22:44:31] Tyrian Camilo.net says: well not replying to me
[19.1.2009 22:44:50] Tyrian Camilo.net says: He is costing us greatyl
[19.1.2009 22:45:00] Cliff Eclipse says: He is at Metanomics thing.
[19.1.2009 22:50:55] Tyrian Camilo.net says: You make sure he acts on things i've requested, then i'll look on the exchange stuff
[19.1.2009 22:53:00] Cliff Eclipse says: I will have his attention soon, and we shall see. I have had my own time and frustration getting his attention.
[19.1.2009 22:53:41] Tyrian Camilo.net says: he should get his priorities straight
[19.1.2009 22:54:13] Cliff Eclipse says: yep
[25.1.2009 19:52:25] Tyrian Camilo.net says: what's up with ace?
[25.1.2009 19:52:29] Tyrian Camilo.net says: intlibber once again didn't pay his bills?
[25.1.2009 19:53:59] Cliff Eclipse says: i think tht is it
[25.1.2009 19:56:44] Tyrian Camilo.net says: lol
[25.1.2009 19:56:48] Tyrian Camilo.net says: so like him
[26.1.2009 5:03:27] Cliff Eclipse says: Sorry, was in a hurry to get to RL work, and couldnt talk. HOpe all is well with you. Not sure what else can be done about Intlibber and land thing with you. I did tell him he must act, but that was back on MOnday, when I last saw him.
[26.1.2009 22:47:42] Tyrian Camilo.net says: yeah, so intlibber has spun out of control
[26.1.2009 22:47:53] Tyrian Camilo.net says: Maybe i ought to send the hounds after him
[26.1.2009 22:49:47] Tyrian Camilo.net says: i fortunately made backup sheets just before ACE went down once again
[26.1.2009 22:49:52] Tyrian Camilo.net says: talk about timing
[26.1.2009 22:50:16] Tyrian Camilo.net says: and i do have a stock exchange platform in my hands, shall i need one
[26.1.2009 22:51:36] Cliff Eclipse says: I cant explain his actions. Its nuts. I did personally tell him to contact you specifically, last Monday, and he assured me he would.
[26.1.2009 22:51:54] Tyrian Camilo.net says: that's all he's been doing for over 2months now
[26.1.2009 22:51:55] Cliff Eclipse says: Either myself of Ham will be in touch with him again.
[26.1.2009 22:52:01] Tyrian Camilo.net says: i requested EM changes some 2 months ago
[26.1.2009 22:52:34] Cliff Eclipse says: Did he ever respond via SKYPE?
[26.1.2009 22:52:46] Tyrian Camilo.net says: also he made Duchess Shepherd an EM, who ever that is, and refuses to remove
[26.1.2009 22:52:51] Tyrian Camilo.net says: Yea he did respond
[26.1.2009 22:52:54] Tyrian Camilo.net says: but still no aciton
[26.1.2009 22:55:12] Cliff Eclipse says: I am waiting for Ham to be online soon. And we will confront him again. I cannot say why he acts this way.
[26.1.2009 22:55:24] Tyrian Camilo.net says: Interestingly, ace went down few hours after i had made my announcement
[26.1.2009 22:55:43] Tyrian Camilo.net says: of IntLibber failing to delvier a service and our stocks trading to be halted
[26.1.2009 22:55:48] Cliff Eclipse says: I have not tried it
[26.1.2009 22:56:28] Tyrian Camilo.net says: yeap
[26.1.2009 22:56:55] Tyrian Camilo.net says: It seems like i'm soon forced on going to direct competition with ACE
[26.1.2009 22:58:18] Cliff Eclipse says: ACE seems to be working fine.
[26.1.2009 23:00:45] Tyrian Camilo.net says: so he did pay his bills then?
[26.1.2009 23:01:05] Cliff Eclipse says: I thought so, yes.
[26.1.2009 23:01:14] Tyrian Camilo.net says: wow, that's a first
[26.1.2009 23:01:28] Tyrian Camilo.net says: or did he get someone else to pay them
[26.1.2009 23:01:45] Cliff Eclipse says: heheh, wasn't me.
[27.1.2009 20:56:36] Cliff Eclipse says: Any word from Intlibber?
[27.1.2009 20:56:44] Tyrian Camilo.net says: none
[27.1.2009 20:57:50] Cliff Eclipse says: ok, We got someone that will call him today, and mention your contact again.
[27.1.2009 20:58:07] Cliff Eclipse says: We do it daily now, and hope for a reply.
[27.1.2009 20:58:38] Tyrian Camilo.net says: has it been long like this now?
[27.1.2009 20:58:59] Cliff Eclipse says: Yes. And not the way to do any business.
[27.1.2009 20:59:55] Tyrian Camilo.net says: indeed
[27.1.2009 21:00:02] Tyrian Camilo.net says: i hope i get the sims out of his hands
[27.1.2009 21:00:08] Tyrian Camilo.net says: both have high value clients
[27.1.2009 21:01:01] Cliff Eclipse says: I am just looking for the ease of doing business, and hate to see this ACE trashed further.
[27.1.2009 21:01:26] Tyrian Camilo.net says: ACE will be a goner
[27.1.2009 21:02:14] Cliff Eclipse says: It works. It works without him, to a degree. But he is owner of everything.
[27.1.2009 21:05:25] Tyrian Camilo.net says: Int doesn't care, so it will be gone simply because of that